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Titanic-Artist

You lost me at “more people die of the vaccine than Covid” hahaha what?! Prove it. Where’s the statistics on that?


EstablishmentAware60

Yeah not sure that accurate. I will say vaccinated that are within 2 weeks of vaccination are counted as unvaccinated. Maybe that’s what they mean.


Spare_Quarter

literally everywhere you look, unless you are 1 of the millions of ccp slaves stuck in china working as a propaganda pusher on reddit..


Mighty_L_LORT

Using the same standards the have to classify Covid death, i.e. every death x days after positive test no question asked...


run_ywa

It's like asking an impossible gift for Xmas.


Jhawk2k

It's almost like multiple layers of defense compound on one another


shenaniganns

Right, its like asking why you would need a seatbelt if you're driving defensively.


CoyoteOnTheWing

And why do we need crumple zones if a seatbelt works. And why do we need airbags if crumple zones work.


__ToT__

>The difference is that the people who tell you to use car safety features haven't also been caught saying they don't actually work. > >Oh, and you don't have to prove your car has an airbag before you are allowed to go shopping. > >As far as I know we don't really have any doctors and nurses 'blowing the whistle' saying car safety features are a scam. > >Also, I don't think seatbelts and airbags are being used in an attempt to create a global technocratic dictatorship. > >Just a few slight differences. 🤷‍♀️


shenaniganns

> The difference is that the people who tell you to use car safety features haven't also been caught saying they don't actually work. If you're gonna make an analogy at least get the first sentence right. This did not happen.


BlahbluhblihMan

Ah yes, what a wonderful source. Your fucking ass.


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CoyoteOnTheWing

The point is OPs post is easily refutable with simple logic. Things that don't offer 100% protection can be added together to achieve more than single precautions. Saying why do we need A if B works is not good reasoning. If A, B and C all offer 10% protection, then you get 30% with all of them. It's a fucking simple idea. It's not commentary on the precautions themselves or the 'scamdemic', just that the premise of the post is very stupid. You're clearly the fool in this thread.


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Lorguis

Do you get this uppity about the fact that you can be ticketed for not wearing a seatbelt?


PregnantWithSatan

Holy shit that's the dumbest image I've ever seen posted here. Haha, but yes it's almost like stacking defenses on top of one another, makes one even more protected?!


Lorguis

Yall keep asking the same questions over and over like the answers aren't easily accessible and already given to you multiple times.


Dull_Reindeer1223

To save grandma, for herd immunity, to stop hospitals from becoming overwhelmed, because other vaccines work, because all vaccines need 10 boosters per year, because we're stupid. Funny that we're not listening to reason right


Lorguis

Like how you're still talking about booster shots, that the vast majority of Americans couldn't get if they wanted to.


ndboost

Why couldn’t they get them?


illini07

The only people that can get boosters right now are old or are in bad health (like actual illnesses and diseases, not just being fat)


Jeffery95

Ever hear the idea of multiple layers of protection. Kinda like during WW1 they had barbed wire, trenches, artillery, land mines, wooden stakes, troops with guns. All of the above would work to some extent on their own. But the combination provides a truly comprehensive defence.


temp284720

I think the best comparison would be with cars, if the seatbelt works why the air bag, if the air bag works why the crumple zone, if the crumple zone works why the suggested 2 second rule


__ToT__

The difference is that the people who tell you to use car safety features haven't also been caught saying they don't actually work. Oh, and you don't have to prove your car has an airbag before you are allowed to go shopping. As far as I know we don't really have any doctors and nurses 'blowing the whistle' saying car safety features are a scam. Also, I don't think seatbelts and airbags are being used in an attempt to create a global technocratic dictatorship. Just a few slight differences. 🤷‍♀️


gorgeousphatseal

I mean..... Your car can kill you if you get in an accident. Those safety features are shaving off percentages but nonetheless when you get in a car you assume a percentage of risk. It's still the same thing.


ohsnapitsnathan

There was actually an [anti-airbag movement](https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-xpm-1996-11-07-1996312009-story.html) when they first became standard and people claimed that they killed more people than they saved. Also in many states you actually can't drive to the mall unless your car [passes a safety inspection](https://firstquarterfinance.com/is-it-illegal-to-drive-without-airbags/#State-Regulations-About-Functional-Airbags), which includes airbags and other systems


loufalnicek

Oh, there were the same "muh freedoms" people opposing seat belts, air bags, all that stuff when they started becoming mandatory. Nowadays we wonder how they could have been so silly and stupid. What will people in the future think of the anti-vaxxers?


giuseppe443

>Oh, and you don't have to prove your car has an airbag before you are allowed to go shopping. but you have to use your seatbelt otherwise you get fined by the cops


Motard_Matt

You only have to use a seat belt if the car left the factory with one, so you can totally drive to the supermarket with no airbag and no seat belt, at least here in the UK anyway.


Zaurka14

What model leaves the factory without w seatbelt?


Esko_Homezz

Old school


Motard_Matt

Most cars before a certain year left without em lol


Zaurka14

Yeah but they're very old and very rare. That's such an exception.


nayrad

This should unironically be illegal to punish. Me wearing a seatbelt is a personal decision.


giuseppe443

I rather not get hit by your body projecting out of the front window


straightillin

Then everyone's insurance rates go up too. So, it's everyone's problem?


Jeffery95

Exactly, good point


EstablishmentAware60

It’s a comparison but not real equivalent. Difference is that you don’t have to put a seatbelt in your body. Kind of a huge difference. You are not bared from travel, loose you job, have people say you should die if you don’t bu Kyle up. Sure they say you are stupid to not buckle up but they don’t advocate you should be left to die if you don’t.


ulookingatme

The difference is there is no ulterior motive in pushing any of those safety features. They actually cost the manufacturer money. Here, the masks are just a convenient way to make this pandemic more serious than it is for the average healthy person to sell vaccines. Those healthy people who do not need a vaccine, or two shots, or tens shots, or ten booster shots....If you have some comorbidity then by all means, wear an N95, get a bunch of shots, and buy a bubble for all I care. For years my mother got the flu shot ever year because she was elderly and was susceptible to the flu as a deadly virus. Yet, no one was asked to wear a mask around her or anyone else who was susceptible to prevent a flu infection. Why not? What's suddenly changed?


JohnPumaMellencamp

If the barbed wire works, why the guns?


Jeffery95

Because they all have a pass through rate.


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Suapsycho03

In your head, in your head they're still fighting


crzdcarney

Zombie, Zombie, Zombie ...


Democrab

MUSHROOM MUSHROOM wait wrong song


Gone2theDogs

Everything that has been done has provided more damage to society than the virus. The defences were debatable in effectiveness at best.


__ToT__

It's amazing how hard the shills are pushing on this sub now. It's like they think the downvotes actually stop people from thinking.


Gone2theDogs

Reddit is a broken platform because it’s part of the MSM. It’s unfortunate but expected. Also, many people don’t want to admit this entire time has damaged all countries and the measures useless. If they admit it, then all their sacrifices were really just the population being taken advantage and a realization the government was using an emergency to enact tyranny. To many people that’s to evil and too painful.


amarnaredux

If the experimental vaccines were truly 'safe and effective', along with being fully tested, which none them are not, it would not have come to this. It appears to be more akin to layers of coercive manipulation to keep people apart from getting together to engage in fruitful conversation, along with other goals. Moving goalposts for further control. Just look at Australia.


Jeffery95

Im just saying that the argument in the picture is easily defeated by a perfectly rational explanation. You can be right, but my explanation can still be rational. The best propaganda is also logical and makes sense. Also, I forgot to mention that I totally died when I received my first dose of the pfizer vaccine. Im not actually typing this.


amarnaredux

True, I agree that your explanation could be considered rational, at least at first glance. You do make interesting points. >The best propaganda is also logical and makes sense. To a group of people who place trust without applied,independent critical thinking, this would indeed be the case. This is not meant as an insult, just as an observation. However, there comes a point where the controls become so severe, even the 'vaccinated' begin to question what is truly going on.


__ToT__

I'm with you OP. The shills are out in full-force tonight lol. Don't worry, your posts are still appreciated. Their downvotes won't stop the critical-thinkers from thinking critically. It's a conspiracy sub, there are far more of us than them lol.


ro4sho

You could also be considered a shill. Just depends on how you look at it. You are just contributing to the division by using language like yours. Please consider what you are doing.


BlahbluhblihMan

Oh no I'm a government shill all of a sudden


palagof

yeah they working extra hard tonight, I'm also with you


__ToT__

>I totally died when I received my first dose of the pfizer vaccine You might find it amusing, but the families of the people who have actually died from the vaccine don't.


Jeffery95

All 5 of them


__ToT__

Stupid comment, government data shows there were more deaths and serious adverse effects from this 'vaccine' in 1 month, than all other vaccines in history put together. Also, VAERS (and don't give me that bullshit about "it's self-reporting, so it doesn't count". If it didn't count, why in the fuck have they been using it for decades? Also, how about the doctors and nurses who have come public saying they cannot in good-conscience continue to support the mandates, when they have seen so many people suffer and/or die from the vaccines? Oh, and let's not forget about the wxyzdetroit network post with hundreds of thousands of comments from people saying they know someone who died shortly after receiving the vaccine. And how about the fact that in the highest vaccinated areas in the world, we are also seeing the highest amounts of covid cases and covid deaths? Yeah, you cool Jeffery lol. Keep on shillin' buckaroo. ;)


ro4sho

Sources please?


Jeffery95

My government data in New Zealand - one of the least corrupt countries in the world shows less than 100 deaths after over 5 million vaccinations. And many of those deaths will be random unlinked to the vaccine. Only 1 so far has been attributed to it based on a coroner’s examination.


5fd88f23a2695c2afb02

I’m in Australia, what should I look at?


__ToT__

This sub is suffering some serious shillery when somebody talking sense about \*the\* conspiracy is getting downvoted.


Sleepyjosh

Australia is some next level stuff right now.


ohsnapitsnathan

Yep, this is a good answer to most of the OP's questions https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_cheese_model


EvilBob_RapePants_

Right but this isn’t warfare, it’s a disease with a near 100% survival rate


Jeffery95

Its an analogy. Its not meant to be a direct comparison


EvilBob_RapePants_

Ok. But why are multiple layers of defense needed for a disease that is basically harmless for healthy people? Perhaps they should focus on improving their health if they want to protect themselves from covid.


Jeffery95

Based on lots of people i’ve talked to, its not harmless. Many are still having symptoms months later. Its not the black death. But its still not fine.


EvilBob_RapePants_

You are talking to someone who had it twice and was basically asymptomatic aside from loss of smell and moderate fatigue. Are your peers physically fit or healthy? Perhaps they have some chronic conditions that they are keeping private.


Jeffery95

Congratulations, did you notice any sort of persistent brain fog? What about muscle pain, abdominal pain, headaches? Long covid is no joke and can affect perfectly healthy people


EvilBob_RapePants_

Nope, only times I experience brain fog are when I am hungover or have smoked weed. Currently have all A’s as a junior in college in a fairly challenging major taking 15 credits and also have received praise at my job (an internship). No muscle issues. I work out most days of the week doing fairly intense weight training.


Jeffery95

Good for you then. Many people haven’t been as lucky


EvilBob_RapePants_

Yeah, the average American is overweight and unhealthy so that isn’t surprising.


NutterButterBeach22

I don’t understand how when someone dies from COVID people can say there is 100% survival rate. If one person dies there is not 100% survival rate. Wait her you don’t know how math works or you live with your head in the sand.


__ToT__

Reading comprehension wasn't your strong suit in school was it? (also, the same way that when someone dies from the vaccine people can say there is a 100% survival rate).


WomanBorePinecone

Might want to work on your reading comprehension skills bud.


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irondumbell

Except the vaccine isn't part of that defense, at least for the public. in fact, it's a trojan horse that undoes the layers. The vaccine's purpose is to reduce the severity of the symptoms of the disease, not to grant immunity. So an asymptomatic person could be selfishly shedding viruses in public instead of recovering at home. The point of the lockdown was that asymptomatic carriers can spread the disease, and this Rna vaccine accomplishes just that. Vaxxed people are the true super spreaders. Getting vaccinated is for individual protection, not immunity - there is no reason to get the shot for 'the greater good'.


Jeffery95

Rubbish. Any reduction in viral load - which the vaccine allows your immune system to achieve - will reduce infection rates. Here in New Zealand most of the people catching the virus in our latest outbreak are unvaccinated.


Error40432

Multiple layers make sense, if the layers themselves work. Barbed wire, guns, trenches, they all work, mask mandates, lockdowns, and the vaccines? Eh not so much


itwasnotme69

Your analogy is correct, but where do you stop? At what percentage of safety do you stop adding layers of protection because all those combined won't stop 100% of the enemy. why not even add more layers if you are using that logic? what's the satisfactory outcome percentage? Those layers of protection were for the enemy and enemy only, where vaccines are killing those who uses them for "protection" against the virus and they don't work neither are effective at protecting the person, stopping the spread, have a lot of seriously bad side effects, and you need now booster shots every six months for now at least, not like the defence layers analogy which is for the enemy only. People in hospitals effected with the virus are 80% fully vaccinated, 15% partially (one shot only) vaccinated and only 5% are unvaccinated. The companies that made the vaccines have history of fraud and malpractice and killing people to increase profits and being dragged and sued in courts for years and years. There are hundreds of facts that I can use against your so called "vaccine" which is not, that you can easily find, also cutting people livelihood, banning them from going to work, participating in day to day life and activities and asking them to provide papers to prove they are vaccinated everywhere they go for their own so called "protection" is quite funny and ironical. So to all of you shills and sell outs I say to you from the bottom of my heart fuck all of you cunts and I hope you all suffer more than any of us who won't bow down to another human being because unlike you we are not dogs. Simcerly, Get fucked.


Jeffery95

You stop at the point that thousands of people are no longer dying and being hospitalised by the virus. Every company in the medical industry has complaints made against them some are valid. But do you still buy penicillin? What about any other medical grade medication? Or do you still grind up plants in your back yard and make tinctures out of them? Welcome to modern medicine.


billswinthesuperbowl

So why are rates worse with more protection than not. I think you forget large states went maskless and had lower rates of infection than states with similar population densities and mask mandates


Sad-figure

Yet cases are continuing to soar?


BluApples

Hey OP is you like unscientific solutions, then trust me on this one: Silica Gel from shoe boxes cures every disease. Just make tea from silica gel. Oh, before you drink your tea, make sure to make a dumb picture claiming silica gel can cure everything. You know that you heard it somewhere and you can just make the picture up, so you know that it's true. Silica gel cures everything.


HenryKissiger

Hay guyz... if skull protect brain... then why need helmet on motorbike? If have helmet... then why need skull? Nothing can bad happen! Me not surrender freedum to big helmet... no way... no how...


EstablishmentAware60

Think you miss the point. If the vaccine is working the why would the vaccinated need to be concerned with the unvaccinated? It would only be a problem with the vaccinated so why is there a need to force them to get it. I think everyone understands a vaccine is a good idea but this is being forced with such insistence and the question of “if it works then why are you worried about me?” Is a valid one. The more push the more resistance will occur till that question is answered. In case you wanted to understand the resistance a bit better. Be safe and have a good day.


HenryKissiger

Da gummint want us wear helmert Loooooooooooong time 😭 😭 😭


xMasterMelonx

No vaccine is 100% effective and the covid vaccines are not an exception.


wattohhh

Because these unvaccinated donkeys are clogging up our medical systems. The data shows you are far more likely to wind up hospitalized as an unvaccinated person vs vaccinated. That is why people are concerned with the unvaccinated. The fact is that this virus causes hospitalizations at a high rate and spreads rapidly, and the unvaccinated population is at the root of it. https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/epidemiological-summary-covid-19-cases.html#a9


EstablishmentAware60

The donkeys are clogging the system would make sense except for the fact that the system is artificially making itself smaller by firing people who don’t take it. The same nurse that was praised who was working just fine without it get fired….making the available space smaller….if clogging the system was the problem they would not be doing that. It would be all hands on deck. Do you see how little sense the “they are clogging the system” makes? I mean really look at it.


ro4sho

When you go to the doctor with a back problem and he says: “take some rest, no sports and I’ll prescribe a cream. If you want you can take a massage each day.” Look at his face carefully when you ask him why you cannot just do one of these things instead of all of them.


akikiriki

Is the source for 6th panel your ass? WTF


ro4sho

Hahaha that gave me a good laugh. At least the graphics were done nicely. Bit of a waste of talent.


nayrad

It's sad because some of these points like 5, 7, and 9 really can't be answered to any satisfying degree by the pro-vax crowd but they're gonna focus on the 1-2 bad points to dismiss the whole thing and maintain their delusion


ro4sho

There will always be questions about anything. The way this graphic is set up is that one point underpins and build s upon another (hence the arrows and numbers). If one or more points are invalid then it basically invalidates the whole picture.


BStrait31

It's from the FDA presentation about a month ago, where they showed a higher risk of death from the vaccine than from COVID.


TencentInvestor

IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH


AlBundyIsMyHero666

It's all one big show...Rub a dub dub


Rare_Concentrate9411

I think it was all just been a big waste


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Ahem_ak_achem_ACHOO

Money grab by the big mask industry


Icy_Lingonberry1395

That's not how it works


Osziris

To anyone who can still think for themselves, they see that this has nothing to do with a virus and everything to do with control.


Zsevern

This is all based on misinformation. It dissproves itself.


megatroncsr2

Also, why do we have so many variations of the vaccine? Because it was never about saving lives. It was a race to make the vaccine to profit. If it was for saving lives, these companies would have collaborated to come up with a vaccine.


xMasterMelonx

Companies are greedy and no one is denying that but let’s not forget about the worldwide money and research devoted to making the covid vaccines. Scientists and researchers all around the world did the collaboration and the companies supplied the money and did the rollout.


Esko_Homezz

If the vaccines cause notable amount of issues, the media can just blacklist one brand of shots while praising the others and keep reminding you how important it is for you to take your doses in order for the vaccinated populus to be safe


BeneficialComfort

the effectiveness of masks has been proven for ages, ever since doctors and surgeons first began to wear masks. social distancing works because it follows a very simple logic: keeping a distance between yourself and any potentially harmful things which is the virus in this case. the lockdown is supposed to work because it is basically a "stronger" version of social distancing. the "vaccines" don't work afaik because people still get covid after taking them. the gov enforced lockdown after masks and social distancing because a lot of people ignored that and decided not to do that, so they gotta be more forceful. they eventually pushed the "vaccines" because there are still people not doing it, so they gotta pretend they are trying.


molotovmouse6

Not quite. Clearly you have no idea what you're talking about and instead prefer to repeat trash you've read online. Real virologists in bio labs wear air tight suits with separate air source, not cloth masks when dealing with infectious diseases.


RespectfulLass

I don't mind social distancing personally because some people get waaay too into my bubble, BUT the "elites" preaching that we the people need to socially distance is utter hypocrisy considering the parties (among other things) they go to with unmasked/unvaccinated individuals. Which is also why I believe the whole social distancing thing eats most folks up so much. It's always the "rules for thee, not for me" BS with the higher-ups.


reuben_iv

You can look at Europe, western Europe has a high vaccination rate while the east doesn't and the east is getting rekt https://www.euronews.com/2021/10/14/eastern-europe-in-midst-of-covid-surge-as-vaccinations-lag And countries with mask mandates, social distancing and covid passes have lower rates than those that don't https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.ft.com/content/34582534-4510-4d45-bcba-2f9e04005309


suitearthh

If you don't realize that numbers can be easily manipulated, then I don't know what to tell ya. Those with mask mandates or vaccine mandates, can be easily relabled as the flu or cold, etc., thereby instantly lowering the numbers. Posting MSM links is now akin to posting the onion links.


Ormals_Fast_Food

So where do you get your information from ?


suitearthh

I can post a bunch of articles, but why bother? You have the need and desire to believe that oppression is the solution to what amounts to a severe flu virus. What more can be said? My only advice to you and all others: think critically. Question everything. Ask what is reasonable... does it make sense? It can be scary to think deeply yes, but your brain will be a lot more balanced if you do.


Ormals_Fast_Food

So some random Internet articles ?


Bigdaddybert

Come on bro I'm not disagreeing with you but that's a horrible attitude. Why bother? It just makes it seem like you've got no argument and are trying to find an excuse, and then using ad hominem to dodge the question. I mean this with no disrespect, but you sound like a liberal when you speak like that lol


Spookyscary333

Wordpress blogs. I’m being serious.


reuben_iv

I do and it isn't just about numbers Romania (lowest vaccination rate basically acting as a control group) just triggered the civil protection mechanism with the EU after it ran out of hospital beds and o2 which is verifiable by multiple sources I don't know what more to add that would convince you it's not going well, like you saw early in the pandemic Italy isn't a third world country EU itself https://ec.europa.eu/echo/news/eu-helps-deliver-oxygen-generators-romania-amid-surge-covid-19-cases_en EU news source https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.eu/article/romania-asks-for-emergency-help-from-the-eu-to-fight-coronavirus/amp/ None EU source https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/romania-talks-with-hungary-over-transferring-covid-19-patients-2021-10-08/ Which of these don't you trust and why?


Confident_Debt_263

They say the East is getting wrecked, but I really question that along with all the other stuff the news says along with this post.


Ormals_Fast_Food

Why ?


mattmateohan

You question it because it doesn’t fit your narrative?


shinigamidannii

Any source on 6? Would really love to see the data.


amarnaredux

Fair question, Case Study from the UK: https://rightsfreedoms.wordpress.com/2021/08/25/official-data-shows-many-more-people-have-died-due-to-the-covid-19-vaccines-in-8-months-than-people-who-have-died-of-covid-19-in-18-months/


_Soup_R_Man_

Yeah, heard it's the same for Taiwan too


shillary_killbot

You really think that's a reputable source??? A wordpress blog????


rxrx

BUT IT'S A BLOG CALLED, RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS!


temp284720

Sorry but why would it exclude those with pre existing conditions and it also doesn't state that the people who die from the vaccine do or don't have pre existing conditions or ~~is even related to the virus~~ *they show something for dieing of the virus but imo this maths feels hog washy


codeofsilence

All the math is shit because it's based on bollocks numbers


PermissionToSqueeb

It's cause they work backwards from the conclusion they want and then torture the numbers until they support that conclusion. Statistics!


lizardk101

What a shoddy source. “There are of course those that will argue that using the number of deaths within 28 days of having a Covid-19 vaccine does not mean the person died due to the Covid-19 vaccine. They are of course correct, but these will be the same people that believe a death that has occurred within 28 days of a positive Covid-19 test is definitely a Covid-19 death.”


Classic-Tomatillo-64

BhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahHahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha


zdipi

The case study you linked literally disproves what you stated… it states that 89,000 people died from covid and 5500 died from the vaccine….


Loud-Chronic

Also check Gibraltar and Israel. They're fucked


akikiriki

There such thing as percentages, maybe you skipped the classes on this one. I will try to explain this so even child understands. If something decreases the infection risks it is good, even in if rare cases it fails. Like if seatbelts fail to save 10% of people in accidents, you will ignore the other 90% and scream that seatbelts does not work?


SuperFamousComedian

Honest question; what are you guys so worried about?


Fromthepromiseland

Forcing vaxx to work and go places


amarnaredux

Look at Australia.


SuperFamousComedian

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ayyysalute

Being arrested for going outside. Like Australia. Get it now?


SuperFamousComedian

This can't actually be happening right?


Ahem_ak_achem_ACHOO

Having to wear a mask while I shower


SuperFamousComedian

Masks kinda don't work when they're wet, I doubt this one will happen.


_Soup_R_Man_

More questions than answers. Just like when it first began. 🤣


amarnaredux

That in itself could be a potential strategy to attempt to leave the populace confused; yet I suspect it's already backfiring.


MrNameGuySir

Proof that vaccines cause more death than covid? Look I'm all against mandates and shit, and I won't get the shot, but you can't just pull crap out of your ass.


amarnaredux

Submission Statement: The proposed narrative and agenda on Covid-19 related controls is falling apart in the face of an awakening populace.


Citizen01123

The awakening populace is so relative. My friends and family in New England and California are all locked into the "pandemic" narrative. My friends and family in the South are locked into the "plandemic" narrative. I've lived in all 3 for substantial amounts of time. I know my loyalities lie in liberty and recognizing this psyop for what it is, but I get why those in other places are still serious about it.


amarnaredux

It will probably get far worse before more wake up, if at all; yet I see it beginning.


Citizen01123

I don't know how long you've been part of either the liberty or conspiracy "movements" but during Obama I said that he was the Preaident who presided over what I called "The Unveiling." His presidency was marred on controvery and corruption to the point where so many things came to light *within the media* that I felt Benghazi, Fast and Furious, the War on Terror corruption, the Federal Reserve, and on and on, that he was tapped to be the face of the NWO showing the general public how corrupt they are so that in the future a new wave of anti-establishment sentiment can grow that would only lead to further corruption. The unveiling in the media that has had no true changing affect when it comes to politics and parties in general has only lead to further diviseness by design. If that makes sense.


amarnaredux

It does to a certain degree, people became more used to corruption as a norm. The difference here is now many more people are personally affected either by health and/or finances. Again, it definitely could go either way; but the harder they try to push covid controls and change the financial system, the more they show their hand.


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NutterButterBeach22

I’m just so glad I have never had fucking mumps. Thank god for science


SupahBlue

We all agree with you, you also didn't need 3 shots for mumps and still end up hospitalised.


Flippin_garage

Okay, so what’s your sources or preferably sources for the statement that vaccines kill more people than the virus does?


Zaurka14

Well, masks, distance and lockdown work, and vaccines are introduced to get rid of them. We can a) wear masks AND keep distance, AND go into lockdowns, or b) get vaccinated and soon get rid of all the three


Dumbledorian1

Never been about public health. Only power grab


Loud-Chronic

This should be stickied to every bus stop, inside public transportation, shop and apartment bulletin boards, old grandma's back, shopping malls and so on. This needs to happen! I'm already vandalizing everything I can with awakened messages. Not sure if that does anything but it sure catches the eye


NutterButterBeach22

Your commitment will surely help stop the spread of infections diseases because they can read.


Loud-Chronic

Alright, what do you propose? At least I'm doing this.


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Loud-Chronic

Or have some funds invested in crypto, introduce good books in college libraries read more literature, less mainstream, less news, more knowledge, great stories about people and their encounters of forming history. All that is fundamental for what we are. History is what shaped us to become what we are. And all satanic effort is mainly pushed to break us apart and induce us in this sort of shock, so we forget about everything that we were, and focus on compliance. Mk ultra full effect.


mattmateohan

Why can’t you conspiracists get your heads around the fact that the vaccines were not designed against Delta? And if you’re all so enlightened, why don’t you actually go work in public health instead of spend your entire lives on YouTube and Reddit?


molotovmouse6

No sh!t Sherlock. None of the vaccines were designed for covid to begin with. Yet the sheeple keep taking their mandated shots and wonder why they keep getting reinfected, but of course play out the narrative that it's the unvaccinated that are to blame.


SupahBlue

The mask has only ever partially worked. Mask plus distancing is so far the best method to avoiding Covid. The vaccines tho, useless.


extremekc

If I seez it on da internetz den it must be da trooffff


nakedchorus

A horrible, sad and grim joke. Xi Jinping rolls on the floor in hilarity while the Wuhan staff bursts their guts laughing. And they don't have to spend one bullet. And the target gov. is assisting in the "conversion." Remember, it's just a conspiracy theory.


smartmonkey17

U guys are dumb... Fr


xMasterMelonx

1. To make them more effective 2. To make them more effective 3. To make them more effective 4. To eliminate the virus. People expected the rollout to go more smoothly and the vaccine was though to be more effective and preventing infection. 5. To prevent vaccine companies from getting hundreds of random lawsuits from people blaming a random death on the vaccine. 6. They don’t 7. Vaccinated people aren’t super spreaders. No one said that they are besides you. 8. To make them less likely to get infected. 9. They are less likely to get and transmit covid. The vaccine passports also provide an incentive for people to get vaccinated. There you go, all of your questions answered.


palagof

lol fucking shills everywhere, this picture has more logic and integrity than any of you will ever have


mattmateohan

God you’re so dumb


DWrathicous

Several doctors and virologists have already debunked the mask narrative. As if we even needed that. If msm is saying mask up, you know it’s bs. My sister in law is a nurse and said late 2020 they saw more patients with strep throat than the past 2 years combined. Why? From wearing masks. They don’t protect you from viruses, but they sure can mess you up with bacteria and other nasty things.


TencentInvestor

Because of the Great Reset WEF technocracy.


CraigSettles

Because they complied


Hefty_Imagination_55

Pakled level braining.


cuccs23

Your logic is making me uncomfortable. I don’t know what to do? I will just turn on CNN now and wait for them to tell me the truth. They never lie.


Lietenant_Laughter

hmm...I wonder if its maybe because people didnt follow the mask and six feet rules, and allowed the virus to get worse...That why the lockdown happened...Hm, That has the be the wildest conspiracy of them all, huh?


BongLifts5X5

If seatbelts work why can't I speed and drive recklessly? If I've never been in an accident, why do I have to wear my seatbelt?


OmegaOverlords

10 If the efficacy of the vaccines eventually drops to near zero ie: no real difference in hospitalizations after some months, does not mitigate and may even contribute to spread, and we look at VAERS, while understanding that there are many other ways to prevent and effectively treat (early) covid-19 disease, why are the EUA's still in effect? Why the continued vaccine push?